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	<title>Comments on: Why people think salespeople are stupid&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Sporkman</title>
		<link>http://www.gaviningham.com/2008/05/06/why-people-think-salespeople-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-73314</link>
		<dc:creator>Sporkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Agreed, salespeople do not need degrees (by enlarge).&quot;

( by and large ) : http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/by-and-large.html

;)

Nitpicking aside, re the content, I&#039;m not in sales, however my impression as an outsider is that sales seems to be a people business (and not necessarily a product business), so it would involve a lot of person-to-person interaction and persuasion. In that light, I&#039;d think it would be important for a salesperson to be generally enthusiastic and empathetic. Outsiders may see salespeople getting together to rev up their enthusiasm and think &quot;they&#039;re all emotional (and therefore not rational)&quot;, when in fact it&#039;s quite rational up your enthusiasm and attitude, as any negative perceptions by potential customers will be picked up on &amp; count against you or your product.

Again, IMO as a non-sales person...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Agreed, salespeople do not need degrees (by enlarge).&#8221;</p>
<p>( by and large ) : <a href="http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/by-and-large.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/by-and-large.html</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.gaviningham.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nitpicking aside, re the content, I&#8217;m not in sales, however my impression as an outsider is that sales seems to be a people business (and not necessarily a product business), so it would involve a lot of person-to-person interaction and persuasion. In that light, I&#8217;d think it would be important for a salesperson to be generally enthusiastic and empathetic. Outsiders may see salespeople getting together to rev up their enthusiasm and think &#8220;they&#8217;re all emotional (and therefore not rational)&#8221;, when in fact it&#8217;s quite rational up your enthusiasm and attitude, as any negative perceptions by potential customers will be picked up on &amp; count against you or your product.</p>
<p>Again, IMO as a non-sales person&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Ingham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Ingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tim&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are of course right - bank managers should be good salespeople. But the fact is that many are badly trained (or not trained) in this important aspect of their jobs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I could write for ages on banks, selling and customer service but I won&#039;t... Maybe that&#039;s one for over a coffee some time!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tom&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments... as someone who comes from a family of teachers too, I think the comment that teachers care is every bit as generalistic as saying business is only about the money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glad to hear that you&#039;ve broken through the glass barrier!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim</p>
<p>You are of course right &#8211; bank managers should be good salespeople. But the fact is that many are badly trained (or not trained) in this important aspect of their jobs.</p>
<p>I could write for ages on banks, selling and customer service but I won&#8217;t&#8230; Maybe that&#8217;s one for over a coffee some time!</p>
<p>Tom</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments&#8230; as someone who comes from a family of teachers too, I think the comment that teachers care is every bit as generalistic as saying business is only about the money.</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you&#8217;ve broken through the glass barrier!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sedge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Sedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gavin,

I wholeheartedly agree with all of your points.

I also think some people are stuck with a couple of common beliefs/stereotypes:

1. Sales people are overpaid conmen who contribute nothing.
2. I&#039;m not in sales, I do the real work.

These work together to make them avoid doing anything constructive about sales, neatly limiting their success.  I know this one well because I used to be one of these people!

I also remember an argument I had once with my mother who is a retired school teacher.  

She said to me: &quot;In teaching we really care about what we do, for its own sake, it is not like business where they are only in it for the money.&quot;

I pointed out that most successful people I&#039;d met who were in business seemed to believe in what they did for its own sake too, and that she apparently didn&#039;t care about teaching enough to forgo her own salary and work for free.

Needless to say, she wasn&#039;t having any of it, because she refused to have anything to do with &quot;business types&quot;.


Tom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gavin,</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree with all of your points.</p>
<p>I also think some people are stuck with a couple of common beliefs/stereotypes:</p>
<p>1. Sales people are overpaid conmen who contribute nothing.<br />
2. I&#8217;m not in sales, I do the real work.</p>
<p>These work together to make them avoid doing anything constructive about sales, neatly limiting their success.  I know this one well because I used to be one of these people!</p>
<p>I also remember an argument I had once with my mother who is a retired school teacher.  </p>
<p>She said to me: &#8220;In teaching we really care about what we do, for its own sake, it is not like business where they are only in it for the money.&#8221;</p>
<p>I pointed out that most successful people I&#8217;d met who were in business seemed to believe in what they did for its own sake too, and that she apparently didn&#8217;t care about teaching enough to forgo her own salary and work for free.</p>
<p>Needless to say, she wasn&#8217;t having any of it, because she refused to have anything to do with &#8220;business types&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tom.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Gavin.  But I have to disagree on the comment about bankers not being sales people.

Banking these days seems to have been reduced to a formula or system with sales people as a front end.  These sales people know very little about the concepts of banking and just put a human face on a computer.

The phrase &quot;Computer says no&quot; must have been incepted after having had a decision inflicted on one of the Little Britain guys.

So I would say that Kevin IS a sales person, albeit a very, VERY poor one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Gavin.  But I have to disagree on the comment about bankers not being sales people.</p>
<p>Banking these days seems to have been reduced to a formula or system with sales people as a front end.  These sales people know very little about the concepts of banking and just put a human face on a computer.</p>
<p>The phrase &#8220;Computer says no&#8221; must have been incepted after having had a decision inflicted on one of the Little Britain guys.</p>
<p>So I would say that Kevin IS a sales person, albeit a very, VERY poor one.</p>
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